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Every week on Monday, the WoW! community and our invited guests weigh in at the Watcher’s Forum, short takes on a major issue of the day, the culture, or daily living. This week’s question: What Will Happen With Trump’s Travel Ban And Immigration EO?
Don Surber: One thing I have not done since he entered the race in 2015 is give Donald Trump any advice on what to do. I reserve my bad advice for others politicians. His track record is too good. He has me scratch my head from time to time, but eventually I see his point.
He can either press ahead with the case and make Democrats remain on the side of terrorists, or he can rewrite the executive order (which I gave read and see nothing to rewrite) and close off those seven nations. I thin the former course is the correct course to take because this is a fight worth winning. The cost is minimal. Bad headlines? He thrives off them. I really don’t see a downside.
The 9th circuit over the weekend decided to rehear the case en banc — essentially appeal the case itself. The lawyer blogs I read say this is unusual and means the judges are embarrassed and do not want to be overturned by the Supreme Court.
Meanwhile, Republicans have long wanted to break up the 9th. There you go.]
JoshuaPundit: Before I get to main course, an aperitif of truth to wash away the foul taste of some common disinformation. First, the implementation of the travel order was not ‘sloppy’ or rushed. Before signing and implementing the EO, the president sent it to the White House Office of Legal Counsel. That office exists for one purpose, to carefully vet any proposed action and advise the president as to its legality and/or any possible legal pitfalls. The president’s executive order was carefully vetted and passed with flying colors before the president signed and released it.
Second, a number of the usual suspects have said with a straight face that no terrorist attacks on Americans have ever originated from natives of the 7 countries in question. That is a deliberate, bald faced lie. And there’s a lot more where that came from. Apparently these creeps think the American people are as stupid as they think we are.
Trump’s only mistake was in thinking that his legal authority was so obvious in this matter and the national security considerations so obvious that it would be implemented forthwith, even if a flood of demonstrations ensued. He didn’t count on the judge shopping and subsequent legal challenge that were so obviously planned in advance.
It’s no accident this went down in Washington State, and that has little to do with any moral implications, all the signs and chants aside.Always follow the money. The People’s Republic of Seattle and environs has a great many corporations that depend on a continued supply of comparatively low wage H1B visa holders for companies like Microsoft, Amazon, Expedia, and Starbucks. Heaven forbid they should employ Americans and pay a decent wage! So much for these companies’ egalitarian,’liberal’ principles, hmmm? According to the language of the lawsuit that was filed, “Many of those immigrant workers are from Muslim-majority countries.”
Other institutions mentioned in the lawsuit are universities in the area who claimed that the order”caused immediate harm to Washington’s public universities, which are state agencies.”
When you do some checking, you find that foreign students are a major cash cow for Washington’s universities, because they pay full tuition. Only Washington DC, Massachusetts, New York and Delaware have a higher percentage of foreign students. Hey, who cares if Mahmoud from Iran is actually a spy, or wants to plant a bomb in an airport terminal at Sea-Tac? Gotta make a buck, especially if we can look virtuous and thwart Trump-Hitler while we’re doing it. Another source of income comes from the hundreds of thousands of dollars paid to various organizations via the Refugee Resettlement program for resettling ‘refugees’ in unsuspecting communities across the heartland. There have already been a number of crimes and incidents stemming from this practice in parts of the country where this sort of thing used to be virtually unknown.
So a lot of the uproar is simply about money.
Will the Travel Ban and Immigration EO be implemented? Well, eventually, but it will probably take the Supreme Court to do it, the fact that there’s absolutely no legal basis not to. The 9th circuit has been reversed more times than any other district court, so what’s one more?
A lesson I hope The Donald takes from this is that these swine will do anything they can to slow walk and impede whatever he does, no matter what it is or how beneficial and necessary for the country it is.Those are unimportant details for the Left.
Stately McDaniel Manor:
I’ve been amused to watch the media, assorted pundits, and virtually all leftists screaming in hysterical agony over everything President Trump does, or is said–falsely–to have done, or is said–falsely–to be planning to do. I am particularly amused, however, at the talking heads that solemnly intone Mr. Trump’s immigration order, which has been abused by the 9th Circuit, commonly known as the 9th Circus for its propensity to make up the law as it goes along, is “sucking all the air out of the room.” Old Washington hands may be breathless over this single issue, but Mr. Trump–and the American people–are not.
As I’ve recently written, https://statelymcdanielmanor.wordpress.com/2017/02/09/split-the-ninth/ and apparently can’t write often enough, Mr. Trump is actually used to work. He works hard, each and every day, just like working Americans that pay taxes and keep our economy afloat. He works long hours, just like the aforementioned Americans, and he can work on more than one thing at a time. Look in the dictionary under “multitasker,” and one will find a photo of Mr. Trump, and millions upon millions of other competent, non-politician and pundit Americans.
President Trump and those that work for him are more than capable of dealing with the 9th Circus, and of simultaneously handling innumerable other tasks. This is why the federal government employees some 3 million people, so they can handle a great many tasks at once. I know they’re out of practice, and this will take some adjustment after eight years of a President who only occasionally did a bit of work, and that, grudgingly, but it’s the new normal. The new Sheriff has already arrived, shot most of the bad guys, and kissed the pretty saloon owner.
Now, after that little bit of a multitasking example, let’s continue to this week’s topic.
I have, upon occasion, found myself in agreement with Alan Dershowitz. We have agreed on the Trayvon Martin case, the Freddie Gray case, and a variety of other legal issues, and we agree on what Mr. Trump should do with this immigration executive order: simply write a new, leaner and meaner executive order addressing every issue raised by the lunatics of the 9th Circuit. Clean it up, make it absolutely unassailable by any sane jurist. Simultaneously, pursue the other executive order in the courts, or perhaps, just long enough to make it moot.
Various leftist attorney’s general will file suit against the new order, but the ultimate goal will be the Supreme Court, and the proper record must be built for that Court. It is even possible the four progressives might vote to uphold the Constitution in this case–the Constitution and federal law are that clear–though one should never count on that sort of rationality.
We must now expect unrelenting lawfare. Virtually everything Mr. Trump does will be met with lawsuits by progressives. In this case, the Constitution is crystal clear, as is federal law: the President of the United States has exclusive power–government has powers, people have rights–to regulate immigration. He can do what he did: stop immigration from any country dead in its tracks. Foreign nationals have no rights under the Constitution, and under federal law, states have no standing to sue in this matter. Federal courts have no legitimate role.
So the 9th Circuit did what it always does: it ignored the Constitution and the law and made it up.
This is a crisis foreseen by those Americans that voted for Donald Trump. The inevitability that federal courts, packed with progressives rather than honest men and women willing to honor their oaths to preserve and defend the Constitution and uphold the law, would ignore their oaths, and blatantly establish rule by federal judge, daring us to do something about it. With a progressive majority on the Supreme Court, eventually, the only means of restoring the Constitution would be violence, and no sane person wants it to come to that.
It’s time for Congress, working with Mr. Trump, to write new laws, carefully and narrowly written laws, that remove–leaving no wiggle room–the ability of the states, private parties, and others to claim standing to sue the President in matters of national security and immigration. To do otherwise is to join Democrats in national suicide.
It’s also time for Attorney General Sessions to drain the swamp that is the Department of Justice. Actually demanding its employees work on the side of America and the rule of law for a change would be novel indeed. Putting in the A-Team, or bringing in outside pros not twisted by progressive ideology, to argue the government’s cases would help too.
What’s that you say? Even if the weasels in Congress do that, the courts will just ignore the law, just as they ignore any law they don’t like now? Perhaps, but we have to start somewhere, and in the meantime, Mr. Trump will be continuing to work, each and every day, on a multitude of important issues. That’s why Democrats are slow-walking his cabinet secretaries. When they’re in office, Mr. Trump will pick up a pace that’s already leaving progressives breathless.
It can’t come soon enough, and it’s about time.
The Glittering Eye :One way or another President Trump’s executive order suspending travel from seven countries in the Middle East and North Africa will be upheld. Either the Ninth Circuit en banc will uphold it (30% confidence) or the Supreme Court will uphold it (75% confidence).
Laura Rambeau Lee, Right Reason : Perhaps the 9th circuit’s decision will be a lesson learned and cause the Trump Administration not to be so quick to issue executive orders until every detail, legality, and consequence of such order is explored. It looked and was sloppy in its crafting and execution. President Trump should understand how everything he does is going to be scrutinized by the political left and the progressive media. He cannot make amateurish mistakes. President Trump should let this go and issue a new executive order. He also needs to push the Senate for the speedy confirmation of Judge Neil Gorsuch for Supreme Court justice. We need a conservative constitutionalist to replace Justice Scalia in order to advance our conservative agenda.
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Here is some easy reading, for those who find (a) themselves indoor for the day due to weather conditions, (b) are stuck at the airport due to 3,000 flights cancelled because of today’s snowstorm in the northeast or (c) if you’re just in the mood for some easy yet informative reading.
Every week on Monday, the WoW! Staff, our community and our invited guests weigh in at the Watcher’s Forum, short takes on a major issue of the day, the culture, or daily living. This week’s question: How Would You Rate Trump’s Performance So Far?
Stately McDaniel Manor:As I’ve recently written, Donald Trump’s performance in the first two full weeks of his presidency has come as a great shock to many, and for many reasons. Perhaps the most interesting is his work ethic.
Trump is a highly motivated businessman, a type A personality, driven to excel. Rising early, working late, doing whatever is necessary to succeed, all of this is second nature to him, and he expects it of everyone that works for him. After eight years of a man who never held a traditional 8-5 job, who may or may not have dropped by the Oval Office in the morning, and who may or may not have put in a few hours of actual work on any given day, the Beltway is still reeling from his onslaught of accomplishment. Some have yet to understand precisely what is happening, why they are so befuddled.
Shocking too is the fact that Trump is keeping his campaign promises, without equivocation, without backpedaling, without concealment and spin. He promised it, he’s doing it, and shows every sign of continuing to do just that. Americans conditioned to expect lies from every politician, and particularly after the last eight years of in-your-face, what-you gonna-do-about-it, sucker, lies, many are still stunned into disbelief. Mark Twain may have foreseen this moment when he said “Always do right. It will gratify some and astonish the rest.” A great many Americans remain astonished.
Particularly fascinating is Trump’s defenestration of the media. He has thrown them out the window and most of America is still applauding as they continue to fall, screaming all the way to the bottom. No matter how the media lies or tries to claim their latest pronouncement will be the doom of Trump, he continues to side step them by social media, and with the exception of leftists, and a few never-Trumpers, no one cares. It is particularly delicious to hear media figures self-righteously lecture us that their survival is the very survival of the First Amendment. We don’t care, and it’s their fault. Interesting how they virtually never support the Constitution until they think it to their benefit. After years of spitting in our faces, it’s satisfying to see their growing realization of irrelevance, and the resultant panic.
Mr. Trump is also emasculating congressional Democrats, who, in their mounting impotence and rage, are driving more and more voters away from them in 2018. They’re providing an enormously valuable public service by producing winning Republican political ads two years hence at no cost to Republicans. They continue to refuse to understand that it was, in large part, their arrogance, hypocrisy, smugness, and their hatred of most Americans, that elected Donald Trump. Trump knows it, and he’s playing them like Bach at the organ. They’re the gift that keeps on giving.
He is also demonstrating–and I know I say this with two scant weeks of evidence–he knows how to play on the national and international stages. It’s as hard to imagine foreign leaders and tyrants putting one over on him as it was easy to recognize them bending Barack Obama to their will at will. He really does intend to put America’s interests first, an almost unimaginable concept.
His nominations are at the least, solid, at best, stellar. His advisors are mature, experienced, capable people. And he is willing to fire insubordinate employees, particularly those that demonstrate partisanship detrimental to the public they are sworn to serve.
We haven’t seen his like before.
Don Surber: I will give Trump a gentleman’s A because I am (yawn) tired of winning, right?
From his excellent inaugural speech in which he told the American people who sent him to clean up Washington that he will clean up Washington, to his sending of 20 ATF — the Feds — to Chicago, Trump has been an EverReady Bunny waking up Washington, a sleepy little Southern town where nothing ever seems to get done, in triplicate.
Pipelines will be built. A wall too. Companies will re-open factories. Japan will invest in our infrastructure, and the Wall will go up, paid for by a tax on liberal tears.Americans have longed for action from Washington to protect the people, and not just those in certain demographic groups, people with outlier lifestyles, and endangered sea slugs. Trump is doing so — and not at the expense of those in certain demographic groups, people with outlier lifestyles, or endangered sea slugs.
Plus, he is a lot more interesting than Obama.
The Razor : I’ll admit that at first I was a bit white-knuckled over the initial reports of his executive orders and such. But as I delved into the facts I realized that I was just being lied to once again by the media which still hasn’t forgiven Trump for winning. Now whenever I hear anything I wait to check the sources myself. It’s a bit of a pain in the rear, but given the lies I’ve recently bought including two laid out in this article, I think he’s doing fine.
Of course the polls are giving him a tough time, but these were the same pollsters that had Hillary winning in November. Oddly no one got fired over that miss…
JoshuaPundit: Oooh,just imagine! A president who starts work right after his inauguration and keeps at it relentlessly instead of playing endless rounds of golf, enjoying 5 star luxury vacations on the taxpayer’s dime and throwing a bevy of lavish parties. A president who was and still is labeled as a ‘con man’ by his opponents who actually does what he said he was going to do and is keeping his word to the people who voted for him. And all for the bargain price of $1 per year plus room and board!
That’s what we have in the White House. And when I read the news now, I’m smiling.
Trump’s vigorous start doesn’t surprise me. Once I realized that at age 70, he was traveling and doing 3 to 4 sellout events per day all over the country without slowing down, I had a pretty good idea of how he’d hit the ground running. Heck, if you remember, he was working at the job even before he was inaugurated, talking to CEO’s and letting them know things were going to be different. My own estimate is that he saved or crated something like 200,000 jobs before he was even sworn in, if you count the downstream vendors. His effect on foreign policy and the War on Jihad has been especially healthy. And it ain’t just America. A whole new order is rising up in Europe encouraged by Brexit and Trump’s victory. Europe may yet be saved.
If I’m grading his overall performance, I’d give him an A minus, and admittedly I’m nitpicking. What we’re seeing is a few errors in execution from someone who is used to being a CEO and is learning that the presidency works a little differently. And perhaps he wasn’t quite prepared for the lengths the toxic Left and the majority of the Democrat party are prepared to go to in attempting to sabotage his presidency and fight what amounts to a civil war, no matter what the cost to the country. But following his campaign, I found out that The Donald is a quick learner who rarely makes the same mistake twice.
He’s going to win this thing. Or as the president would undoubtedly say himself, we’re going to win it.
Mistakes? Well for one thing I think he would have been far better off waiting until he got Neil Gorsuch on the Supreme Court before issuing that Immigration order. It makes so much common sense and is so entirely legal and within presidential authority that President Trump may not have realized the Left would go judge shopping and attempt to block it. With Gorsuch on the bench, we would have seen a 5-4 or perhaps even a 6-3 decision. We still likely will, but this makes it a tougher battle that will almost certainly require the nuclear option. Finding a way to quietly freeze up the Refugee Resettlement program might have been a better first step. Getting Jeff Sessions in place as Attorney General first would have been helpful too. Trump knows better for next time, I think.
I’ve been very pleased with his appointments in general with one exception. Sean Spicer is a decent guy, but I think he lacks the poise and control he needs to deal with the media jackals. He comes across uncertain, like someone who’s constantly trying to avoid being caught at something. The part of me that enjoys this as a blood sport would love to see Ann Coulter or Milo Yiannopoulos in the role, and I giggle happily at the thought of what either of them would do to the likes of say, CNN’s Jim Acosta. But a more realistic choice might be talk show host Hugh Hewitt. Aside form his genial persona, he knows a lot of the players well, is smart and well spoken and has a real flair for making the Left look ridiculous while maintaining his sense of humor. I bet he’d do it if President Trump asked him. At any rate, I think Sean Spicer may be moving to a different role soon.
The Glittering Eye :Just a few weeks after taking the oath of office is really far too early for making any sort of evaluation of the Trump presidency but I’ll do my best. In the following table I’ve listed four areas (domestic policy, foreign policy, execution, and style) with a maximum of 25 points for each area, 100 points in all.. Within each of domestic policy and foreign policy, I’ve listed five key actions, with a maximum of 5 points per action.
|Cabinet apppointments||B-||3.67||But for his NSC appointments IMO President Trump’s appointments have been pretty good.|
|Gorsuch appointment||A||5.00||Neil Gorsuch is a solid appointment, well-qualified for the job and under any other circumstances his confirmation should sail through. He will ultimately be confirmed but no until after considerable Sturm und Drang.|
|Regulations EO||B+||4.67||If there had been a little more meat in President Trump’s EO requiring executive agencies to remove two regulations for each new regulation imposed, I would have given this a solid A.|
|Pipelines EO||B+||4.67||President Trump corrected an error made by President Obama, who acted against the recommendations of his own advisors in blocking the Keystone pipeline.|
|Fiduciary rule EO||C||3.00||I don’t have strong feelings about this one way or another and there are good arguments in both directions. I don’t think it’s of vital significance.|
|7 country travel stay EO||C+||3.33||The basic idea of what’s being referred to, incorrectly, as the “Muslim ban” is reasonable enough but more deliberation would have resulted in a better policy. It should include more countries, esp. KSA, and it should not have include present green card holders, those who’ve worked as translators and their families, and the like. The execution and style were seriously bungled and are taken into account below.|
|Mexico City policy EO||C||3.00||Pure domestic politics.|
|The Wall||C-||2.67||The need to fulfill a campaign promise central his campaign made this inevitable but it’s expensive, unnecessary, and inadequate. Most illegal Mexican immigrants are economic migrants and the only effective way to control the situation is via workplace enforcement.|
|Russia||C+||3.33||Putin is not a good guy. He’s a very bad guy. However, the U. S. bungled any possible rapprochement with Russia 20 years ago. There are some areas in which we should cooperate with the Russians and some where we should oppose them. The sweet spot is having a better relationship with Russia and China than either does with the other.|
|China and East Asia||B-||3.67||On the one hand Trump clearly has the Chinese off balance and isn’t as supine with respect to them as American presidents have tended to be over the period of the last forty years, IMO a good thing, but he’s imposing uncertainty among our allies in the region, too.|
|Execution||C||15.00||It’s really too early to tell.|
|Style||D-||7.00||President Trump has already exhibited an alarming tendency to make rash and inflammatory hipshot remarks. A generally unfriendly media then blows these out of all proportion, resulting in his having less support from moderates and centrists than might otherwise have been the case. There’s a middle ground between blind approval and knee-jerk, over-heated disapproval and President Trump is making that middle ground hard to maintain.|
In summary, I think President Trump is doing pretty well in domestic policy, fair in foreign policy and execution, and poor in style. Overall rating: C-. The readership of my blog covers a fairly broad spectrum of views. I assume that my more progressive readers would be appalled that I would give President Trump anything higher than an F while my more right wing readers would be upset that I would give him anything less than an A.
Bookworm Room:I am chronically happy. My sole hope was that Trump simply wouldn’t be Hillary, who was lined up to be the “Second coming of Barack Obama” and the final nail in a constitutional America’s coffin. I truly had no idea he’d be so spectacularly Donald — hard-working, keeping his promises, re-shaping America’s disastrous Middle East policies (including signaling an alliance with Israel in a way no president, including even Reagan, has ever done), Gorsuch-nominating, media-fighting, restoring integrity to the American border . . . It’s all too marvelous, too marvelous for words.
My only fear at this point is the too-the-death battle brewing between Donald, on the one-hand, and a hard-Left, rat-like fighting-to-the-death administrative state and judiciary, on the other hand. While Donald might have theoretical authority under the Constitution, I fear that these monstrous entities may have grown so strong that he might lack the actual executive authority to change the dynamic and return those out-of-control excrescences to their proper constitutional proportions.
As for the street protests, I’m loving them. It’s a gift to see Leftists go all out to prove how they are simultaneously stupid, I’ll-informed, mean-spirited, and tyrannical. With their obscene costumes and club-wielding sidekicks, they are the gift that keeps on giving.
Laura Rambeau Lee, Right Reason : President Trump hit the ground running for sure. He is addressing the issues as he promised his supporters he would. The left continues to moan and wail but to no avail. He IS OUR president and it’s time to suck it up and get on with the business of governing. Trump’s cabinet appointments should get confirmed without any more delay. The media says he is playing to his base, which of course he is by doing what he said he would do if he became president. Imagine that, a president not just making promises but keeping them.
The big challenge now is to expand his base of supporters. With a clear message he could convince many of these mindless protestors of the real danger coming from the left as we see them fomenting violence and anarchy in the streets and on our college campuses. They are the ones who threaten our freedoms and need to be held accountable for their criminal behavior. It’s time the rule of law was restored to America. We are going to need President Trump to unite Americans. President Obama lit the fuse and left a very dangerous world for President Trump. I pray he will be guided to make the correct decisions for our future security and prosperity.
Well, there it is!
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Every week on Monday, the WoW! Staff, our community and our invited guests weigh in at the Watcher’s Forum, short takes on a major issue of the day, the culture, or daily living. This week’s question:Should Mexico Pay For The Wall? Will They?
The Razor : The purpose of the wall is to keep out illegals, I get that. My county is full of them and everyone suffers including the illegals themselves (from crime, exploitation, poor living conditions).
In my view there’s nothing morally wrong for a country to secure it’s own border and requiring immigrants to wait their turn.
Mexico is a failed state we share a very long border with. I don’t see how making it pay for a wall is going to make it any less a failure. I’d rather see the Trump administration take a two pronged approach:
1. Build the wall with US government funds.
2. Work with Mexico NGOs and non-corrupt government agencies (if any are left) to help the state rebuild itself.
The worse Mexico becomes the worse it’s going to be with us. It’s in our own best interest for Mexico to clean itself up and the aid we provide now will be worth the lives of our own soldiers who will have to be sent 5-10 years down the road to clean the place up like Somalia except on a huge scale.
Stately McDaniel Manor: It really comes down to whether we’re wiling to have and enforce immigration laws for Americans. If not, there’s no sense in pretending.
A necessary prerequisite is this: is the new normal unrestrained illegal immigration–and illegal drug importation–fueled and aided by the Mexican government? And if so, is America’s response to be to abandon any pretense of the sovereignty Mexico zealously enforces? Is America to follow the Obama doctrine of token enforcement of a few immigration laws in an obvious, in-your-face attempt to import enough illegals beholden to the Democrat party to eventually build a permanent Democrat voting bloc? Are Democrat-controlled cities to be allowed to flaunt federal immigration law, ignoring the rule of law and substituting instead, social justice?
If so, no wall is necessary, nor is a Border Patrol large and effective enough to have any hope of controlling the borders.
As with so much in the realm of security, we would be wise indeed to listen to the Israelis and to follow their lead. A wall, by itself, is of little use and is a waste of money, but properly manned, patrolled, and supplemented with the proper electronics and air assets, can funnel illegal immigration from a wide open fire hose deluge, to a trickle. This is not a short term project, and the political will to maintain an America-first policy over the long term depends on improved national economics credibly linked, at least in part, to enforcement of America’s immigration laws. Otherwise, when the next Democrat takes over Washington, the wall will be abandoned and easily breached, literally and figuratively.
Necessary too is a far more serious relationship with Mexico, one that does not require America to pour billions into a corrupt state that sees advantage in encouraging its poor to flood America, passing off its social welfare problems on American taxpayers. Necessary too is the choking off of the avalanche of remittances–more than $20 billion a year–that keeps Mexico’s political corruption and stagnation afloat. Taxing that money stream for awhile could easily pay for a wall and force the Mexican government and its upper class to deal with the many problems it now avoids by taking advantage of America.
There is no right for anyone to breach American borders and illegally take up residence. States–nations–that encourage the wholesale violation of American law should be treated, if not as outright enemies, at least as hostile states, and treated accordingly. At present, many Mexicans that fled the poverty and class stratification of their native country maintain an emotional attachment to Mexico, which often grows stronger the longer they are absent. Enjoying the relative bounty even the poor experience in America, they forget the misery that impelled them to risk their lives fleeing to America, and refuse to assimilate, expressing instead Mexican nationalism, often aggressively. Americans, particularly working Americans that wish no one ill, are not generally amused by such behavior.
They are particularly not amused by racist organizations like La Raza–“The Race”–that demand much, asserting those illegally in America have rights that override the rights of the native-born, and asserting a sort of virtue possessed by the ungrateful, illegal by their very presence in a nation they did not ask permission to enter, and which they call racist and hateful. They are, of course, utterly unable or unwilling to understand the inherent hypocrisy and irony in their demands of and hatred toward the nation that makes a pleasant life possible for them, and expect all the rights of citizenship, but none of the responsibilities, such as living under the rule of law.
To be sure, no man or woman of conscience can fail to pity those that illegally come here and remain, abandoning a country that cynically and willingly refuses to make the political reforms necessary to allow them to make a living. Who can hate those struggling to provide for their families? Who can begrudge the honest and hard working a chance to find a little comfort and security for those they love?
But let’s keep our priorities straight. It is Mexico–and other nations–that owes these people the opportunities and political stability their presence here damages. They are not our responsibility, and if we are to be a nation of laws, they can’t be allowed to remain.
Either we have immigration laws that benefit America and Americans, and enforce them, or we end the corrupting pretense and throw open the borders. If it is to be the former, an effective wall, with all the supporting personnel and mechanisms it requires, is a necessary beginning. If not, well, I’d rather not think about that future.
JoshuaPundit:Ah, Mexico! Just the name gives me some wonderful memories. Sad how things have changed.
To answer the question directly, yes, Mexico should pay and yes, Mexico could be made to pay, simply because they encouraged and have profitted by illegal migration. A fairer solution would be 50-50, and I think that’s how it will end up. Nieto is seriously unpopular, the peso is crashing, and the Mexican economy could not handle taxes on remittances from expatriates or tariffs on its exports to the U.S. The current contest in machismo ended properly,with both Trump and Nieto agreeing not to talk about wall payment in public anymore.They’ll work a deal, in part because Mexico can benefit as well, at least to a degree. And because Nieto really has no choice. Lo siento, pobrecito. Así es como es..
The wall won’t be 100% effective. No wall is. But it will significantly cut down the amount of drugs, human trafficking and illegal migration coming across the border, and that needs to happen because te lawlessness Mexicans have to live with every day is coming across the border, and that’s not even mentioning the folks our Border Patrol agents refer to as OTM’s – ‘other than Mexicans.’ Those people are coming over for entirely different reasons than jobs, and their guidebook is the Qur’an, not those easy to read comic books the Mexican government passes out by the truckload telling potential illegal migrants how to cross over easily.
The wall is a necessary evil. The United States, a wealthy First World nation finds itself with what amounts to a quasi-failed state with very little law and order just across the border, and the only way it will change is through the efforts of the Mexican people themselves. It won’t happen at all if the U.S. continues to be an easy safety valve that allows the status quo to continue. The kind of change Mexico needs is going to be extremely difficult if it’s even possible. But such changes only happen when things get to the point that the people themselves demand it and are willing to act. Until then, a certain level of quarantine is necessary.There are a number of other things America can do after the wall is built to help Mexico, but I will explore that in a separate article.
Don Surber: Mexico should pay for the wall, and if those costs are passed along to Americans who purchase Mexican products, so be it. Mexico has flooded the United States with cheap marijuana, cheap meth, and now cheap heroin — as well as 5 million illegal aliens.
Foreign nations have played us for patsies. The promises of NAFTA go unfilled. Instead of reducing illegal migration from Mexico, it accelerated it.
As far as this weekend’s Fake News about a Muslim ban, it strengthens support for Trump. I believe most Americans will be able to screen out the disinformation, see another weekend of freaks protesting and see that maybe Trump is not all that bad.
The Glittering Eye : Whoever pays for it, it’s an ineffective policy but it’s a campaign promise that formed the core of Donald Trump’s campaign so he’s obligated to follow through with it. If we really wanted to end illegal immigration from Mexico there’s one way to do it: tough workplace enforcement.
There’s no such thing as a non-porous border and the wall will only be as strong as its weakest border control agent.
Laura Rambeau Lee, Right Reason :While a lot of Americans supported and voted for President Trump because he promised to build a wall and that Mexico would pay for it, this issue was not why I supported him. I voted for him because he promised to appoint conservative Supreme Court justices, he is a strong supporter of the Second Amendment, and, well…#NeverHillary.
I’m not even sure building a wall is necessary. If the Trump Administration’s policies are going to prioritize enforcing existing laws and increase border patrol personnel, we will be doing a lot more than has been done the past few decades to curtail illegal immigration, human trafficking and the massive amount of drugs coming across our southern border. We should fund state of the art technology such as surveillance drones to watch the border and put more personnel at the heaviest trafficked areas. There may be areas where a fence or wall would be beneficial to stopping people and drugs from coming across the border and drones would help pinpoint such areas.
This should be done immediately and we should not wait for Mexico to pay for it as that might never happen. Mexico benefits too much from our porous border and really has no incentive to cooperate in this endeavor. This is a complex issue and whatever we do we need to be sure there are no negative unintended consequences as a result of our actions.
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In retribution to President Donald Trump’s executive order issued this past Friday that contains a moratorium of people entering the country from several jihadist breeding grounds in the Middle East, Starbucks CEO, Howard E. Schultz, a hard core Progressive announced “plans to hire 10,000 refugees.”
Schultz in a statement on Starbucks website stated:
We are living in an unprecedented time, one in which we are witness to the conscience of our country, and the promise of the American Dream, being called into question. These uncertain times call for different measures and communication tools than we have used in the past. Kevin and I are going to accelerate our commitment to communicating with you more frequently, including leveraging new technology platforms moving forward. I am hearing the alarm you all are sounding that the civility and human rights we have all taken for granted for so long are under attack, and want to use a faster, more immediate form of communication to engage with you on matters that concern us all as partners.
Spoken like a true Progressive, Schultz was silent and did not take issue with Barack Obama crushing the path to the American Dream for millions of Americans or Obama’s 2011 ban of refugees. Nevertheless, unemployed Americans, i.e., young men and women, veterans need not apply.
Hiring Refugees: We have a long history of hiring young people looking for opportunities and a pathway to a new life around the world. This is why we are doubling down on this commitment by working with our equity market employees as well as joint venture and licensed market partners in a concerted effort to welcome and seek opportunities for those fleeing war, violence, persecution and discrimination. There are more than 65 million citizens of the world recognized as refugees by the United Nations, and we are developing plans to hire 10,000 of them over five years in the 75 countries around the world where Starbucks does business. And we will start this effort here in the U.S. by making the initial focus of our hiring efforts on those individuals who have served with U.S. troops as interpreters and support personnel in the various countries where our military has asked for such support.
Time for President Trump to eliminate the H1B visa programs especially since the companies screaming the loudest and ginning up the fear across the globe hire through H1B visa programs instead of unemployed Americans.
Moreover, when Starbucks is not hiring refugees, they will be hiring Dreamers through their “Opportunity Youth” fairs. Unemployed Black youth, need not apply.
Support for DACA: As I wrote to Senators Graham and Durbin this week, we are enthusiastically behind their work to support “Dreamers” across our country – including those young men and women who are part of the Deferred Action for Childhood Arrivals (DACA) program. There are nearly three quarters of a million hardworking people contributing to our communities and our economy because of this program. At Starbucks, we are proud to call them partners and to help them realize their own American Dream. We want them to feel welcome and included in our success, which is why we reimburse them for the biennial fee they must pay to stay in the program and why we have offered DACA-related services at our Opportunity Youth hiring fairs. (link)
Schultz’s statement was not solely an attack on the president’s immigration and vetting of refugees, it is an all-out war on Trump’s policies and on Americans in general on behalf of George Soros and globalists everywhere. Case in point: the repeal and reformation OBAMACARE.
Our Healthcare Commitment to You: Finally, let me restate what we have recently communicated with you about the Affordable Care Act – our commitment remains that if you are benefits eligible, you will always have access to health insurance through Starbucks. Many of you have expressed concerns that recent government actions may jeopardize your ability to participate in the Affordable Care Act. If the recent Executive Order related to health care remains in place and the Affordable Care Act is repealed causing you to lose your healthcare coverage, you will always have the ability to return and can do so within 30 days of losing that coverage rather than having to wait for an open enrollment period. If you have any questions or concerns, please contact the Benefits Center at 877-728-9236.
Using one’s employees as a propaganda tool is not too low for this globalist.